it worse including the fact that obama care is causing small employers not to hire because of rising healthcare costs. gas prices have doubled. the middle class is being buried under this administration. the vice president said it aptly and it is true. >> chris: let's turn to a couple of issues that came up during the debate. obviously the jobs report came out after the debeat. both sides saying that the other candidate is lying about h his position and let's start with taxes. governor, the president keeps saying that mitt romney is proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. that is not true. >> chris, wait a minute here. the governor, i mean former governor romney is proposing a 20% cut to income taxes including income taxes for the wealthiest of americans and i believe a 30% cut to corporate income taxes including for people like big oil that are socking all of us at the pump reit now. any economist may debate whether that adds up to $4.9 trillion or add up to 5 trillion dollars but the fact of the matter is in this debate we saw big bird meet the big lie. in fact, when you do those sorts of tax cuts t